hey thanks for the links chris, by the way, did you guys know about babelfish.com? its a site devoted to language educations. kinda cool. ok, my enter is not working...anyways, kris, 2 years at relay huh? damn. All i know is that i got tired of that job after a while, i was there for a year total, but had the summer off. i still use relay quite often. (on the web) it is an excellent way to call people if you are absolutely broke, and can get access to the internet. sometimes i call up and prank call the operators...hehe, i just can't help it. grrr... still can't use enter.... well see ya'll. erik